James: Today we're talking about print around the church as far as signage. Maybe some posters and little things on bulletin boards and as as you can tell print can be this huge conversation and there's so many things that get printed. But we're going to do this final episode on print. Talking about these things so, Joanna what are your brief opinions on this?

Joanna: Yeah I think in general minimalism is trending right now so I would love for people to think about that. In regards to printed pieces around the church what we're talking about here is just I think we all know this where you go into a room that you've not been in before in some in somebody else's church or somebody else's building. And there's just like signs everywhere. Everything's being promoted in all different directions and you see in a church maybe there's instructions on the wall in the women's washroom to turn off the lights and there's instructions about where to put your garbage and there's instructions and there's invites to the ladies tea and there's invitation to serve in youth ministry and like all of us like everywhere around you in this tiny little room surrounded by printed pieces and like contents spewing at you. So ultimately it just becomes noise and it's hard to make any of those things meaningful. So I want people in short to think about where are they putting print pieces in their church. If there isn't I would encourage you to have a centralized place where people can pick up things like a print card you can buy really cheap probably on Amazon or whatever else just a little shelving thing where people collect where it can be a centralized place people can collect all invitational things you know all materials about your church and upcoming events all in one place. It's probably the right place for that is somewhere in the centralized lobby gathering area and maybe by the reception of you know your administrator at the front desk in the office. The other thing is maybe you want to consider if you don't already have it a giant bulletin board like a place where people can hang posters and that is the only place that they can go. In some ways it's sort of appeasing the people who want to put up the posters because it makes them feel like they're they're doing something to really promote their event that they're there up to and maybe it's not super effective but if it's for relational reasons sometimes you want to pick your battles and let people do a print piece but then the thing you're going to choose is where they get to put it that they can't plaster every entry door of the building, every bathroom stall, every column and pillar and wall covered in posters that become meaningless because they're so noisy. So think about a few places like a bulletin board or a few designated sign areas you can buy like you think of in public washrooms. There is those little framed clips often on the back of the stall door. I'm saying washrooms which is a Canadian way of saying restroom. I'm trying to catch myself. Restroom. I'm so Canadian right now. Bathroom, restroom, washroom, WC whatever you call it, the loo. But yeah you can get these little framed clip things they pop open you put the put the print piece in and clip it back shut. Maybe that will help standardize the size and place of where they go if it doesn't fit in this clipping frame thing then it is in the wrong place and it is the wrong size in the wrong sort of standard. Just again thinking about less is more when it comes to posters and print and signage on walls. Try and have somebody who has fresh eyes to go into spaces and see if you have print overload and become more of a minimalist with the print that you're putting all over maybe consider getting a TV screen where you can have a loop of ads there's all kinds of other solutions. And yeah I want you to think of less is more when it comes to printed signage around the building.