Joanna: Today it's a classic debate Mac versus P.C.. Let's talk about the difference.
James: At VMC we've been using Mac for this and for the entire three years that we've kind of existed and that's mainly because I've for the most part been a Mac user but I actually always wasn't. I started learning video editing on Windows. I started on Windows way back in Bible college like early 2000s. I was just talking with my brother the other day about my really low budget eMachine. I don't even know if that company still exists but it was like a 400 maybe 300 dollars like Windows machine it could barely load up the video editing. It had to have like the special deck in order to read the tape that I had, it was really bad. And before I even went to college I was again on a Windows machine and what got me to change is the college program that I got in to provided you with a Mac laptop to be able to use as part of the program to work on your stuff while you're at school and then take home with you to do your homework. And that actually forced me to switch. I remember the first couple months I actually hated my Mac machine. But the more I got used to it the more I liked it the more I kind of got into what they do well which is suck you into their ecosystem and you start to end up using all their products. But that has kind of changed in the past few years like Mac has definitely lost a bit of its shine a bit of its appeal to like professional users on like who use products not just for internet browsing and you know the phone type stuff but more for creating art and digital media. It's definitely fallen behind.
Joanna: I'm seeing even on like YouTube and vlogger stuff, the Mac vs. PC debate because PC has come a long way in what they're capable of doing in terms of video staff particularly those are the people who are talking about switching over. I was a Dell computer user but like when I got my very first computer going away to university it was 2003 I got a Dell. I didn't get into Mac until I was doing more marketing communications stuff after university which for me would have been I don't know 2008, something like that. And and what I find now is that I'm in an ecosystem. This is how they've gotten me that my iPad my iPhone my Mac everything now connects to each other and so it's hard to escape it. But I'm seeing more and more as I'm looking right now to buy a new computer for myself I'm thinking oh you know actually there's some amazing products out there right now with PC but here's my encouragement to you if you're working in church particularly. I think Mac for a lot of people they buy it because of the brand they buy it because it's the same as buying something with the Adidas logo or Nike swoosh on it, they're buying it not because they know anything about computers and what they do but just because it's the brand that they they like and know and see in coffee shops. But for most people working in church maybe not so much in a creative or communications and media role but a lot of people working in church they're doing like word processing, emails, web browsing, spreadsheets, Google Dos that is cloud based work they don't need this huge machine with capacity like a lot of these Mac's. It seems like a lot of churches are spending more money than they need to on the hardware and computers for their staff.
James: And for that I will definitely agree where I would argue against that though is for production software like yeah for displaying lyrics and doing the worship presentation software. This is where I think the Macs are better whether it's a Mac Mini or an iMac or even a Mac Pro is one, you tend to have a lot of volunteers using those computers so you want it to be actually the better operating system for ease of use and just quickly to be able to transfer files over. And secondly, you're also doing a lot of live stuff right. So you're doing worship presentation software you want to be on the most stable platform and in general, not always but presentation software on Macs tend to be fairly stable when compared to their their Windows versions. And so you can have a lot less issues of things needing to be updated 10 minutes before the service or crashes happening and that's where I'd say just a straight Mac Mini or iMac at around a thousand dollars to twelve hundred dollars are actually great options because they're a shared computer that lots of different people will use. Usually a lot of different volunteers will use on any given Sunday. And so that's where I think those computers actually Mac is the best fit. But as you were saying like for office staff like it is it's a brand right. Like people are buying into a brand and you can find awesome Windows machines or Chrome books now that do the exact same things, they're a mix between a laptop and an iPad and they can do really great things they've got great hardware so those are now beginning to creep in a now maybe the number one choice like they are slowly overtaking the Mac laptop and iPad system.
Joanna: So we just at our church did a trial, we had a number of our staff using the Chrome books in the last month or so just to see how they would work. I think they were able to, warranty you know they could try it for a month and they had a bunch of our staff in different departments try it because the theory was OK a Chromebook is basically a web browser everything's held on the cloud, you're not going to save anything directly on the computer it's sort of sort of like an iPad with a keyboard and long story short the box it comes in says searching for incredible and the running joke around our office right now is we're still searching for incredible! Like it has just been terrible. Our staff are totally miserable, the people who have used them they're incredibly slow and they haven't been able to do a number of things that they wanted. So that's another thing to consider if you're not sure which way to go Mac? PC? Chromebook? iPad? Mac Pro? Whatever it is consider finding a place to purchase them if you're new at this or you're not super sure what you want. Try to find a local shop in your area where you could try it for even up to 30 days of a return policy not because you intend to return it but knowing that if it's not exactly what you need and you need to return it that you can within that window and then if you need to get something you know beefier or something like a Mac then you still can go back and do that if you need to but for the most part a lot of people they don't need all the bells and whistles of a Mac.